Comrades, have you ever thought that the definition of our cherished base ideology of socialism (or whatever you want to call it : collectivism, Communism, democratic socialism, Fabianism, Fascism, Leninism, Marxism, Marxism–Leninism, socialism, statism, Trotskyism) is far too narrow to account for all the success in countries around the world where they aren't even socialist?

This is how the capitalist dictionaries (spit) define it:

Definition of socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism. (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

Let's face it, comrades – when people hear of our esteemed ideology they think of mass murder on an industrial scale, Stasi smashing down doors in the middle of the night and hauling people away to the gulag, children informing on parents, parent informing on children, Chekists informing on fellow Chekists, waiting long queues to buy toilet paper, etc…. but they never hear of the good side of socialism… the socialism with a smiley face.

But democratic socialism (or socialism democratic or social democrat or..) can be so much more.. so how do we sell socialism to the dumb masses who have forgotten the misery and mayhem of the USSR and National Socialist Germany?

How do we broadly define it so that anything positive that happens can be attributed to its good orifices? A prime example is this definition buried in the screed: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America:

“Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.”

See how easy it is – anything positive the government does is… you guessed it: Socialism!

Of course, the proviso ‘benefit' ensures that anything bad that happens ISN'T Socialism – that can't be blamed on the free market or just freedom, so it's a win-win all the way!

Just define the word as meaning taxes or government and suddenly the whole world is Socialist!!

So get cracking people, how can we do better than the aforementioned definitions?

On a semi-serious note it's becoming apparent that today ‘yutes' are being sold a load of BS that just about anything the government does is “Socialism”.

You only need look at the aforementioned screed ‘75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America' (it's available in multiple locations, just use https://duckduckgo.com/ or https://ixquick.com/ ) and you'll see the ridiculous lengths the nation's socialists have gone to try and make that evil ideology as innocuous as possible.

Of course, it becomes laughably ridiculous when leftists try and claim socialist nations aren't socialist when their definitions speak otherwise.

But who said the Left was logical?

My own definition? Great!

Socialism

Noun:
An economic system whereby you give Comrade Stierlitz everything you own, including your soul, and continue to do so until you die.
Verb:
A style of socializing whereby Comrade Stierlitz gets to throw pizza, meatloaf, fish juice, and cream pies at you until he unties you from the power pole.
Adjective:
A term used to describe the process in which Comrade Stierlitz uses his massive 151-inch biceps to crush his enemies, see them driven before him, and hear the lamentation of their women.

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Just another page out of 1984 A.K.A. Washington D.C.'s playbook.

FREE STUFF!

EVERYONE GETS EVERYTHING FOR FREE!

They can take away my individualism. They can take away my self-reliance. They can take away my ambition. Hell, they can even take away whatever inclination I might have once had to get off my duff and make myself halfway presentable and do something with my life.

But they will never take away MY FREE STUFF!

It's bait and switch. If public woks (internal improvements as they used to say) are defined as socialism then you have to accept the entire socialist agenda or be a hypocrite. Ayn Rand called it a "package deal."

But in order to accomplish it's goals socialists outlaw the individual rights of property, freedom of association, and right of contract that must be protected in order that society be a governing whole of individuals that own and govern their own lives.

So socialism promises all of the material goods needed to foster your life as an individual as bait and then switches the promise to the reality that these dictators that want to impose their ideas of right and wrong on everyone else deny you of your rights to actually posses and enjoy your life on your terms. Complete bait and switch on every aspect.

Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:It's bait and switch. If public woks (internal improvements as they used to say) are defined as socialism then you have to accept the entire socialist agenda or be a hypocrite. Ayn Rand called it a "package deal."

But in order to accomplish it's goals socialists outlaw the individual rights of property, freedom of association, and right of contract that must be protected in order that society be a governing whole of individuals that own and govern their own lives.

So socialism promises all of the material goods needed to foster your life as an individual as bait and then switches the promise to the reality that these dictators that want to impose their ideas of right and wrong on everyone else deny you of your rights to actually posses and enjoy your life on your terms. Complete bait and switch on every aspect.

Most equally true, Comrade.
I have posted to my friends videos of Obama saying he will support the Muslims when things get ugly, only to be told, "He was kidding." You are a fearmongerer! I will now delete all of your emails. We are sorry you have taken this direction. Meanwhile, we don't want to listen to your fantasies, or talk to you.

They reiterated how proud they were that Obama was now their President and i should just shut up. They were very disappointed in me for disagreeing with them, or actually mentioning the Muslim immigration in the Netherlands. I was a "fearmonger" for mentioning this.

Seven years of heartbreak. I know I am not alone.

My definition?

I will give you everything you want at first, then deprive you of all of it! Ha! Ha! Sucker!

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Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:It's bait and switch. If public woks (internal improvements as they used to say) are defined as socialism then you have to accept the entire socialist agenda or be a hypocrite. Ayn Rand called it a "package deal."

But in order to accomplish it's goals socialists outlaw the individual rights of property, freedom of association, and right of contract that must be protected in order that society be a governing whole of individuals that own and govern their own lives.

So socialism promises all of the material goods needed to foster your life as an individual as bait and then switches the promise to the reality that these dictators that want to impose their ideas of right and wrong on everyone else deny you of your rights to actually posses and enjoy your life on your terms. Complete bait and switch on every aspect.

Agreed. The point about public works is an example of the black and white thinking that all control freaks use. If you aren't one, you're the other. If you don't agree with the democrats, then you must belong to the republicans. If you're against government control, then you're for child labor and murder without consequence. But, the fact of the matter is that the world doesn't operate on a spectrum, it operates on a plane. It isn't just a Republican-Democrat spectrum, the points are all over a plane and they're joined by Libertarianism, Constitutionalism, Greens, independents, and a multitude of other parties, positions, and hybrids. The world is too complex to be "one or the other", but that's how the control freaks split populations up so that they can be more easily conquered and controlled.

Pamalinsky wrote: Most equally true, Comrade.
I have posted to my friends videos of Obama saying he will support the Muslims when things get ugly, only to be told, "He was kidding." You are a fearmongerer! I will now delete all of your emails. We are sorry you have taken this direction. Meanwhile, we don't want to listen to your fantasies, or talk to you.

They reiterated how proud they were that Obama was now their President and i should just shut up. They were very disappointed in me for disagreeing with them, or actually mentioning the Muslim immigration in the Netherlands. I was a "fearmonger" for mentioning this.

Seven years of heartbreak. I know I am not alone.

The "washed masses" don't want the dark wool pulled out from their eyes because the light of truth is too bright to those who haven't seen it for a long time. If you try to do it, it hurts their eyes and they pull it back over their eyes. They've also built a very rickety fantasy world for themselves to justify their positions and logic, and whenever you question that fantasy you're essentially causing small earthquakes that shake things away from it. They're living in an Alice in Wonderland world where everything isn't as it seems and where the impossible can happen seamlessly.

They like to act like they're so progressive and peaceful when they are actually very conservative and militaristic. If they don't like something they'll yell at you, organize petitions which will have thousands of signatures within a day, and they'll try to affect your life. They're also trying to engage in the same kind of censorship that was employed in communist russia and other dictatorships. They love freedom and progressiveness, but only if it conforms to their feminist and socialist dogma.

I think that they've realized that by themselves they can't sustain their party, so they're looking for "alternative ways" to keep those membership numbers high. This means

1) Educating the young into the mindset they want
2) Employing useful idiots that can be discarded when used up
3) Controlling the media so that nothing anti-party is showing
4) Controlling people's entire lives so that they can't be anti-party

I'd say that all 4 are present in one way or another.

The inmates kamerads in my our kollectiv define "Socialism" as "We Get EVERYTHING We Want For free! Free! FREE!, but in return we give up - Ooh Look: There's a Squirrel Outside! Aren't They FUNNY!!!"

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"Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite."
-- John Kenneth Galbraith

Socialist Collective: We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us.

Apparatchik Unkulturny wrote:The inmates kamerads in my our kollectiv define "Socialism" as "We Get EVERYTHING We Want For free! Free! FREE!, but in return we give up - Ooh Look: There's a Squirrel Outside! Aren't They FUNNY!!!"

Ah! I do love the Unkulturny/Crapteck dou. Selling the best of Socialism in their own ways.

Well, well, well…not to toot my own horn…but it looks like I was quite prescient in my ‘prognostication':

WaPo Definitions Of Socialism And Capitalism Set The Table For More Socialism https://www.weaselzippers.us/237741-wap ... socialism/ via @WeaselZippers

Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:It's bait and switch. If public woks (internal improvements as they used to say) are defined as socialism then you have to accept the entire socialist agenda or be a hypocrite. Ayn Rand called it a "package deal."

But in order to accomplish it's goals socialists outlaw the individual rights of property, freedom of association, and right of contract that must be protected in order that society be a governing whole of individuals that own and govern their own lives.

So socialism promises all of the material goods needed to foster your life as an individual as bait and then switches the promise to the reality that these dictators that want to impose their ideas of right and wrong on everyone else deny you of your rights to actually posses and enjoy your life on your terms. Complete bait and switch on every aspect.

The problem is that the 'public works' turns the definition of socialism on it's head.
It also can make it sound like Socialism has been around for centuries - ever since the days of 'Law' and 'Civilization'. [Who knew the Roman empire was 'Socialist'?]


The bait and switch comes into play with people thinking that they are just voting for free-stuff when they don't realize the switch is that they have to give up their Liberty in return.

Socialism is also Ponzi scheme with oppression soon to follow when it becomes clearly evident that the promised Free Stuff looted from others doesn't materialize.

Comrade Torcer wrote: The problem is that the 'public works' turns the definition of socialism on it's head.
It also can make it sound like Socialism has been around for centuries - ever since the days of 'Law' and 'Civilization'. [Who knew the Roman empire was 'Socialist'?]


[highlight=#ffff00]The bait and switch comes into play with people thinking that they are just voting for free-stuff when they don't realize the switch is that they have to give up their Liberty in return.[/highlight]

Socialism is also Ponzi scheme with oppression soon to follow when it becomes clearly evident that the promised Free Stuff looted from others doesn't materialize.

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Two of my most favorite quotes, both from Dwight D. Eisenhower:

"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."

The most telling is the upfront admission that socialism doesn't work by socialists themselves.

If it is such a great system, why do we have to borrow money from our children, grandchildren and now great-grand children to make it work today???

Kopernicus-ski wrote:The most telling is the upfront admission that socialism doesn't work by socialists themselves.

If it is such a great system, [highlight=#FFFF00]why do we have to borrow money from our children, grandchildren and now great-grand children to make it work today???[/highlight]

Simple: We must borrow from them so we can invest in their futures. This in turn, provides them with opportunities to prosper so we may continue borrowing from them. I think the approved phrase is "borrow it forward" -- see?

Comrade Stierlitz wrote:
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Two of my most favorite quotes, both from Dwight D. Eisenhower:

"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."

One only has to look at the nationwide prison that are most if not all Socialist enclaves to realize the truth of that quotation.

Most people don't realize this is the case, and those that do are either lying to themselves or to everyone else.

Kopernicus-ski wrote:The most telling is the upfront admission that socialism doesn't work by socialists themselves.

If it is such a great system, why do we have to borrow money from our children, grandchildren and now great-grand children to make it work today???

If it is so great, why doesn't have to be enforced at the point of a gun?

Comrade Torcer wrote:
This is how the capitalist dictionaries (spit) define it:

Definition of socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism. (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

The word socialism was (as well as the word capitalism) coined by collectivists. The definition itself is twisted from their way of seeing the human condition. "The means of production" is a very de-personalized phrase. It's as if there is a thing out there in the world that is independent of humanity that provides for us. But there ain't nobody here but us chickens. "The means of production" are YOU!!!

So in actual reality socialism is all about control of the people. People are the means of production, distribution, and exchange. There is nothing else you can actually control. Go to a factory and control it. Go to a nation and control it. What is it you need to control? Things? Good luck with that.

Socialists are like architects painting pictures of fantasy buildings that don't take into account the law of gravity. The only way to maintain their buildings in real life would be by the constant application of force to counter the law of gravity. Is that architecture? If you paint pictures of the society you want to build that don't take into account the fact that the individuals of society constitute their governance (a very real law of social gravity) are your ideas representative of government or are they a fantasy that if instituted need constant force to kept them propped up because you refuse to acknowledge a real law of nature? The painter of fantasy isn't an architect and the painter of fantasy society isn't government. Government isn't the denial of nature's laws.

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Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:

Comrade Torcer wrote:
This is how the capitalist dictionaries (spit) define it:

Definition of socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism. (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

The word socialism was (as well as the word capitalism) coined by collectivists. The definition itself is twisted from their way of seeing the human condition. "The means of production" is a very de-personalized phrase. It's as if there is a thing out there in the world that is independent of humanity that provides for us. But there ain't nobody here but us chickens. "The means of production" are YOU!!!

So in actual reality socialism is all about control of the people. People are the means of production, distribution, and exchange. There is nothing else you can actually control. Go to factory and control it. Go to a nation and control it. What is it you need to control? Things? Good luck with that.

Socialists are like architects painting pictures of fantasy buildings that don't take into account the laws of gravity. The only way to maintain their buildings in real life would be by the constant application of force to counter the law of gravity. Is that architecture? If you paint pictures of the society you want to build that don't take into account the fact that the individuals of society constitute their governance (a very real law of social gravity) are your ideas representative of government or are they a fantasy that if instituted need constant force to kept them propped up because you refuse to acknowledge a real law of nature? The painter of fantasy isn't an architect and the painter of fantasy society isn't government. Government isn't the denial of nature's laws.

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Rant Back! OMG I hate to hate but, I hate them, I hate them, I hate them! Oh, great Stalin's ghost, I friggin HATE them. I am at my wit's end. I have been told that I am in fantasy land when I point out evidence of socialist shenanigans. Real evidence. They don't care. They are willfully blind and wish to stay that way. They are suicidal. They don't see it. That includes me in their suicidal actions. They deny it. I'm wrong and a "fearmonger." Did I mention how I hate them?

Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:

Comrade Torcer wrote: The word socialism was (as well as the word capitalism) coined by collectivists. The definition itself is twisted from their way of seeing the human condition. "The means of production" is a very de-personalized phrase. It's as if there is a thing out there in the world that is independent of humanity that provides for us. But there ain't nobody here but us chickens. "The means of production" are YOU!!!

So in actual reality socialism is all about control of the people. People are the means of production, distribution, and exchange. There is nothing else you can actually control. Go to a factory and control it. Go to a nation and control it. What is it you need to control? Things? Good luck with that.

Socialists are like architects painting pictures of fantasy buildings that don't take into account the law of gravity. The only way to maintain their buildings in real life would be by the constant application of force to counter the law of gravity. Is that architecture? If you paint pictures of the society you want to build that don't take into account the fact that the individuals of society constitute their governance (a very real law of social gravity) are your ideas representative of government or are they a fantasy that if instituted need constant force to kept them propped up because you refuse to acknowledge a real law of nature? The painter of fantasy isn't an architect and the painter of fantasy society isn't government. Government isn't the denial of nature's laws.
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Excellent points Comrade!
Ronald Reagan said it best, and I cannot improve upon his words:

“The Founding Fathers knew a government can't control the economy
without controlling people. And they knew when a government sets out to
do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. “ Ronald
Reagan.

I must confess I may have not considered that aspect of the definition of the word. When you distill the issue down to it's constituent parts it should become clear that most of 'means of production' are inanimate objects that require people under government control to make them function.

It's akin to the Gun control debate - firearms are merely inanimate objects no more dangerous that any other tool or machinery. It's only when they have a person to manipulate and use them that they become so. Thus the term should be 'People control' because that it the true purpose of it, but I digress..

You also made some excellent points in the second part of your message.
Since socialism defies human nature it cannot be anything but a reality defying endeavour in the extreme. Thus it has to be built upon a foundation of lies with those who dare utter the truth thrown in the Gulag or 'Mental institution'.
I'll finish my rant with this quote from Georg Orwell on the subject:

“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.”
George Orwell

Pamalinsky wrote:

Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:

Rant Back! OMG I hate to hate but, I hate them, I hate them, I hate them! Oh, great Stalin's ghost, I friggin HATE them. I am at my wit's end. I have been told that I am in fantasy land when I point out evidence of socialist shenanigans. Real evidence. They don't care. They are willfully blind and wish to stay that way. They are suicidal. They don't see it. That includes me in their suicidal actions. They deny it. I'm wrong and a "fearmonger." Did I mention how I hate them?

I've seen it phrased this way: Socialism is Organized Evil.

I'm at loss to understand why people cannot see this.

Comrade Torcer wrote:

Pamalinsky wrote:

Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:

Rant Back! OMG I hate to hate but, I hate them, I hate them, I hate them! Oh, great Stalin's ghost, I friggin HATE them. I am at my wit's end. I have been told that I am in fantasy land when I point out evidence of socialist shenanigans. Real evidence. They don't care. They are willfully blind and wish to stay that way. They are suicidal. They don't see it. That includes me in their suicidal actions. They deny it. I'm wrong and a "fearmonger." Did I mention how I hate them?

I've seen it phrased this way: Socialism is Organized Evil.

[highlight=#ffff00]I'm at loss to understand why people cannot see this.[/highlight]

Me, too, Comrade Torcer. I have just one brother who sees things this way, so it pains me to say that I think they are just intellectually lazy and love the sense of importance they get by slamming conservatives with their talking points. I have found that they all say the exact same thing. Like robots. (I have two other brothers who are conservative, whew!)

So, here are my "markers":

1. [highlight=#ffff00]Intellectual laziness, which leads to acceptance of lies. "Everyone lies!"[/highlight] so I'm told. Which leads to the inevitable "Bush did it" meme. So, according to them, two wrongs do make a right as long as it's them.

2. Repeat. I really don't know what else to say. For now.

Pamalinsky wrote:

Rant Back! OMG I hate to hate but, I hate them, I hate them, I hate them! Oh, great Stalin's ghost, I friggin HATE them. I am at my wit's end. I have been told that I am in fantasy land when I point out evidence of socialist shenanigans. Real evidence. They don't care. They are willfully blind and wish to stay that way. They are suicidal. They don't see it. That includes me in their suicidal actions. They deny it. I'm wrong and a "fearmonger." Did I mention how I hate them?

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Let's look at 2 systems, both of which have similarities:

Naziism (which is actually National Socialism but I digress)

- Killed 6 Million people
- Sent political dissidents and the Jewish people to concentration camps
- Was led in Germany by an insane leader who had a cult of personality surrounding him
- Made life worse for those living under it
- Had a program implemented called the Hitler Youth for the young to spy on their families for compliance and dissidence
- Had regular showings of force by the military marching in the city
- Was fought against by many of the world's nations
- Was eventually apologized for and swastikas and other Nazi imagery banned nationwide by the new German government
- Is taught about to young Germans today by taking them to actual concentration camps and showing them the horrors of what went on
- Was in power for about 10-15 years
- Promoted a mentality that involved intense hatred of the Jewish people and political dissidents

Socialism/Communism

- Killed 10 Million people
- Sent political dissidents and Muslim people to gulags
- Was led in Russia by many insane leaders who had cults of personality surrounding them
- Made life worse for those living under it
- Had a program implemented called the Young Pioneers for the young to spy on their families for compliance and dissidence
- Had regular showings of force by the military marching on Red Square
- Is taught about to young Russians in a way that is not known to me, but which I suspect to be pro-communist.

However, here's where the similarities end

- Was adopted by many of the world's nations
- Was never apologized for and most of the documents detailing operations left classified
- Was in power for about 70 years
- Promoted a mentality that involved intense hatred of Capitalism and Capitalists and political dissidents

As you can see, they're both very similar. However, communism is the more dastardly of the two, as it killed more people in it's gulags (which in most cases were even worse than the concentration camps), was in effect for a far longer span, and is kept very secret even today. And while most adherents of communism despise Naziism along with the rest of us, they remain oblivious to it's far worse history.

I'd say that communism is like a religion, and that that's why more people are getting on the communist bandwagon. You have the Communist Manifesto holy book written by the god Marx which was used by saints Lenin and Stalin to bring the Kingdom of Communism about in Soviet Russia.

However, beyond this obvious explanation, the fact that is is a religion means that it can take the place of other religions. Most people nowadays are becoming Atheist because it's trendy and not thinking long and hard about it. They get out of religion too quickly and never give themselves time to decompress. Enter communism. It's very prevalent on the internet, there are many websites, discussion boards, and blogs devoted to communist thought. Many communists also venture outside of their own sphere to attack people on videos that espouse right-wing, moderate, or even light left-wing thought. Therefore, the religion of communism proselytizes without proselytization, if you know what I mean. The fact that it's adherents attack on so many fronts means that it gets a lot of free advertising.

Now we know how they get into it, but what about the average new communist convert? They're usually college students, or in their early-mid 20's. This means that they don't have a lot of political experience, unless they're like me and got into it when they were very young by way of their parents. They've also probably gone or are going to college or graduate school, are working a fast food job, and haven't yet got into a job that allows any advancement. The low pay combined with the student loan debt that will be welded onto them after they get out discourages them, I know it would discourage me.

Therefore, they want an out, a bit of escapism. Some choose superheroes and comic books, other choose regular books, movies, TV shows, drugs, booze, you name it. However, they may simply hate working, and then you have the perfect conditions for a communist. Communism's adherents advertise world peace, free stuff, and eternal happiness as their primary goals. Everybody wants world peace, so they already have a leg up on the ignorant. The free stuff is very attractive to the college student as it allows them to falsely lower their expenses. The eternal happiness is also very attractive as the college student is often stressed out with exams and studying and possibly having no social life.

However, the free stuff comes with higher taxes, and the eternal happiness turns into eternal suffering. Those who don't know anything about economics, which are communism's primary customers, never see this. They get caught up in communist fervor and soon are brainwashed into the communistic way. They're never educated about the horrors of communism and what makes America special. Hard work made America great and freedom, liberty, and free enterprise make America special, but since most communists have had cushy lifestyles all their life they never see this, think that the world can function without tradesmen, garbage men, and other dirty, thankless jobs, and proceed to sing the praises of a system that beats down the average joe, gives all the power to the government, and will force the cushy person who loves communism to the fields or the factories.

Thank you for posting that, Comrade Sterilitz, I am just so weary of repeating it.

Here's an interesting list:

The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals
https://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

Most, if not all of them, are complete now.

Pamalinsky wrote:Thank you for posting that, Comrade Sterilitz, I am just so weary of repeating it.

Here's an interesting list:

The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals
https://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

Most, if not all of them, are complete now.

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You oughta have some business cards printed up:


Of course, you may want to be more tactful than my example. Maybe include a link to the Kube? American Thinker? Smith's The Wealth of Nations?

Comrade Stierlitz wrote:

Pamalinsky wrote:Thank you for posting that, Comrade Sterilitz, I am just so weary of repeating it.

Here's an interesting list:

The Communist Takeover Of
America - 45 Declared Goals
https://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

Most, if not all of them, are complete now.

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You oughta have some business cards printed up:

Pamsbizcard.jpg

Of course, you may want to be more tactful than my example. Maybe include a link to the Kube? American Thinker? Smith's The Wealth of Nations?

Ha! Tact, Schmact! Good idea, Comrade Steirlitz! Howsomever, even though I truly believe that honest communication combined with manners are the lubricants that maintain a civil society, it doesn't seem to work with these people. They don't seem to care, either way.

I probably could incorporate "manners" a bit more, though. I'll admit that.
Meanwhile, until I get to it, they can just piss off! ; • )

Pamalinsky wrote: So, here are my "markers":

1. [highlight=#ffff00]Intellectual laziness, which leads to acceptance of lies. "Everyone lies!"[/highlight] so I'm told. Which leads to the inevitable "Bush did it" meme. So, according to them, two wrongs do make a right as long as it's them.

Yes, I could sing a few score on that subject. Many a time I feel like I'm conversing with the same person in different places.

Carry on conversation with those on the Pro-Liberty right side of the spectrum and you will perceive a fair spectrum of disparate cogitation - 'Diversity' - if you wish to venture that terminology.

The opposite is manifest when dealing the Pro-tyranny Leftist side. Many's the time a discussion has followed an almost preordained script with the same tactics and talking points employed in almost the same sequential order. Leftist will claim to be independent and that they 'think for themselves' but their mannerism and talking point style belie this assertion.

Actually, Comrade Torcer,

When I lived in Los Angeles, they had a public access channel open to any who wanted to broadcast their thing. (Comcast)

There was this woman, who I can't remember, and wish I could share her inanity, who used the word “diversity” as if it was the definitive word of all tolerance and love on the planet. She used it often, in the most nasal tones, to show how wonderful and tolerant she was.

The word “diversity” has come to mean its very opposite. i.e. Everyone is now the same.

I now hate the word, but love its original meaning.

Comrade Stierlitz wrote: [OFF]

You oughta have some business cards printed up:

Pamsbizcard.jpg

Of course, you may want to be more tactful than my example. Maybe include a link to the Kube? American Thinker? Smith's The Wealth of Nations?

That puts me mind this rule of the

Top 10 Gun Safety Tips
10. Always keep your gun pointed in a safe direction, such as at a hippie or communist.

Pamalinsky wrote:

Karl Marx Treatment Center wrote:

Comrade Torcer wrote:
This is how the capitalist dictionaries (spit) define it:

Definition of socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism. (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

[highlight=#FFFF00]Socialists are like architects painting pictures of fantasy buildings that don't take into account the laws of gravity. The only way to maintain their buildings in real life would be by the constant application of force to counter the law of gravity. Is that architecture? If you paint pictures of the society you want to build that don't take into account the fact that the individuals of society constitute their governance (a very real law of social gravity) are your ideas representative of government or are they a fantasy that if instituted need constant force to kept them propped up because you refuse to acknowledge a real law of nature? The painter of fantasy isn't an architect and the painter of fantasy society isn't government. Government isn't the denial of nature's laws. [/highlight]

Yes, Comrade Karl Marx Treatment Center!
They actually have a name for their architecture. It's called Brutalism!

Here are some notable examples of Brutalism Architecture:

Ain't it perty? ; • )

Pamalinsky wrote:
Yes, Comrade Karl Marx Treatment Center!
They actually have a name for their architecture. It's called Brutalism!

Here are some notable examples of Brutalism Architecture:

Ain't it perty? ; • )

Thanks for pointing out that Brutalism architecture is an intentional form, or "style" of construction. I always thought it was called earthquake damage.

Captain Craptek wrote:

Pamalinsky wrote:
Yes, Comrade Karl Marx Treatment Center!
They actually have a name for their architecture. It's called Brutalism!

Here are some notable examples of Brutalism Architecture:

Ain't it perty? ; • )

Thanks for pointing out that Brutalism architecture is an intentional form, or "style" of construction. I always thought it was called earthquake damage.

Yeah, Comrade Crap, there is thaaaat. But, we progs have most important info to give the unwashed masses some ways to make their lives easier. If it wasn't for us, they wouldn't know what to do. I mean, some people just don't know what's best for them. We just want to help. Oh, and, we have our priorities straight.

This is Number One on the list:

A Method to Prevent Movement of Picture Frames During an Earthquake

Pamalinsky wrote:

Captain Craptek wrote:

Pamalinsky wrote:
Yes, Comrade Karl Marx Treatment Center!
They actually have a name for their architecture. It's called Brutalism!

Here are some notable examples of Brutalism Architecture:

Ain't it perty? ; • )

Thanks for pointing out that Brutalism architecture is an intentional form, or "style" of construction. I always thought it was called earthquake damage.

Yeah, Comrade Crap, there is thaaaat. But, we progs have most important info to give the unwashed masses some ways to make their lives easier. If it wasn't for us, they wouldn't know what to do. I mean, some people just don't know what's best for them. We just want to help. Oh, and, we have our priorities straight.

This is Number One on the list:

A Method to Prevent Movement of Picture Frames During an Earthquake

Helpful, but they never tell us what a "screw driver" is - is that something Dear Leader uses when HE'S playing golf?

Captain Craptek wrote:

Pamalinsky wrote:
Yeah, Comrade Crap, there is thaaaat. But, we progs have most important info to give the unwashed masses some ways to make their lives easier. If it wasn't for us, they wouldn't know what to do. I mean, some people just don't know what's best for them. We just want to help. Oh, and, we have our priorities straight.

This is Number One on the list:

A Method to Prevent Movement of Picture Frames During an Earthquake

Helpful, but they never tell us what a "screw driver" is - is that something Dear Leader uses when HE'S playing golf?

No, it's one part Vodka and 2 parts Orange Juice with ice. Dear Leader prefers his Vodka straight.

Comrade Stierlitz wrote:

Captain Craptek wrote:

Pamalinsky wrote:
Yeah, Comrade Crap, there is thaaaat. But, we progs have most important info to give the unwashed masses some ways to make their lives easier. If it wasn't for us, they wouldn't know what to do. I mean, some people just don't know what's best for them. We just want to help. Oh, and, we have our priorities straight.

This is Number One on the list:

A Method to Prevent Movement of Picture Frames During an Earthquake

Helpful, but they never tell us what a "screw driver" is - is that something Dear Leader uses when HE'S playing golf?

No, it's one part Vodka and 2 parts Orange Juice with ice. Dear Leader prefers his Vodka straight.

Hmm? Is that the only thing Dear Oleander prefers straight? Guess it is. Whooda thought it. (I'm moving into the naughty zone now. Beware!)
p.s: We all know what a screwdriver is. Snort!

Comrade Stierlitz wrote:

Captain Craptek wrote:

Pamalinsky wrote:


No, it's one part Vodka and 2 parts Orange Juice with ice. Dear Leader prefers his Vodka straight.

Wait! Dear Leader prefers his Vodka, gay.

Pamalinsky wrote: Hmm? Is that the only thing Dear Oleander prefers straight? Guess it is. Whooda thought it. (I'm moving into the naughty zone now. Beware!)
[highlight=#ffff00]p.s: We all know what a screwdriver is. Snort![/highlight]

You're treading the line of offending the Mentally Handicapable, Pamalinsky. I've got the National Gulag Switchboard on speed dial, too.

Hammer and Loupe wrote: Wait! Dear Leader prefers his Vodka, gay.

Yes, I suppose he does. I denounce myself for such an obvious and easily-caught mistake.

That's why I only use Bernie Sanders' "I can't believe it's not Communism."

It's just like Communism, but with an arrogant, condescending flavor that has to be forced down.